Here’‘s a couple of quick bugs i’'ve noticed when using Spark and the MSN gateway as my primary MSN client. Hope there useful.
Wildfire 3.1.1
IM Gateways 1.0b5a
Spark 2.0.7
After having Spark open for a while (and connected to the MSN gateway), I will get the following message. I can typically go a half day or more before getting it…
“MSN Transport: Unknown error from MSN: java.io.IOException: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host”
This disconnects me from the MSN network, however Spark still shows me as being connected to MSN (and all my MSN contacts’’ presence is frozen to the state it was at during the disconnection. – Not sure if this is a gateway or spark bug). This makes it so that users think they’'re logged in, but in actuality they are not.
When talking between my MSN account (using Live Messenger client) and Spark (using MSN gateway), the MSN client is able to send things like “Nudges”, “Winks”, etc. The person using MSN can send these, and thinks that the spark user receives them. However, the spark user never receives them and does not know that they did not receive them.
In the past, I’‘ve talked between a newer MSN Messenger / Live Messenger client (which has these features) and an older MSN client which doesn’‘t. Doing the same thing, the newer MSN client receives a message saying the remote user’‘s client doesn’'t support it.
So, basically I think maybe there’'s a way to advertise what the client is capable of and that the gateway advertises too much? Just guessing there
Thanks again for all you’'re work. Happy Holidays!
When talking between my MSN account (using Live Messenger client) and Spark (using MSN gateway), the MSN client is able to send things like “Nudges”, “Winks”, etc. The person using MSN can send these, and thinks that the spark user receives them. However, the spark user never receives them and does not know that they did not receive them.
Well first off, what is a nudge and a wink? It’'s not the same as an emoticon?
In the past, I’‘ve talked between a newer MSN Messenger / Live Messenger client (which has these features) and an older MSN client which doesn’‘t. Doing the same thing, the newer MSN client receives a message saying the remote user’‘s client doesn’'t support it.
Hrm.
So, basically I think maybe there’'s a way to advertise what the client is capable of and that the gateway advertises too much? Just guessing there
Possibly. We -are- announcing ourselves as a newish MSN client so it may be based off that. In AIM/ICQ land you explicitly list things you support. If nothing else I might be able to catch the event and respond myself. Not creating an issue just yet, but probably will when you tell me more about nudges and winks. ;D (I can’'t see where they would be in my mac version of msn messenger)
Daniel
peted20 wrote:
Thanks again for all you’'re work. Happy Holidays!
Pete
Hi Daniel,
Here’‘s a couple of quick bugs i’'ve noticed when using Spark and the MSN gateway as my primary MSN client. Hope there useful.
Wildfire 3.1.1
IM Gateways 1.0b5a
Spark 2.0.7
After having Spark open for a while (and connected to the MSN gateway), I will get the following message. I can typically go a half day or more before getting it…
“MSN Transport: Unknown error from MSN: java.io.IOException: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host”
This disconnects me from the MSN network, however Spark still shows me as being connected to MSN (and all my MSN contacts’’ presence is frozen to the state it was at during the disconnection. – Not sure if this is a gateway or spark bug). This makes it so that users think they’'re logged in, but in actuality they are not.
Well first off, what is a nudge and a wink? It’'s not the same as an emoticon?
Both are kinda new to MSN I think (maybe since version 7?)… A nudge basically allows one person to press a button and have the other person’‘s window “shake” and have a sound play. Its basically a way of just getting someone’‘s attention, if they’'re taking too long to reply or whatever.
A wink is interesting- you can basically send an animated cartoon to the other person, which automatically plays on their screen (it actually plays a flash file, complete with sound). There’‘s one where there’'s a crowd noise cheering and a big smiley face that bows to the other person, etc.
Both are kind of “gimmickey” in my opinion, but it would probably be good for the person sending them to know the other person didn’'t get it, since it does change the conversation a little. Its just a small thing I noticed when testing- certainly not a blocker or anything
Well first off, what is a nudge and a wink? It’'s not the same as an emoticon?
Both are kinda new to MSN I think (maybe since version 7?)… A nudge basically allows one person to press a button and have the other person’‘s window “shake” and have a sound play. Its basically a way of just getting someone’‘s attention, if they’'re taking too long to reply or whatever.
A wink is interesting- you can basically send an animated cartoon to the other person, which automatically plays on their screen (it actually plays a flash file, complete with sound). There’‘s one where there’'s a crowd noise cheering and a big smiley face that bows to the other person, etc.
Both are kind of “gimmickey” in my opinion, but it would probably be good for the person sending them to know the other person didn’'t get it, since it does change the conversation a little. Its just a small thing I noticed when testing- certainly not a blocker or anything
GATE-144 =) My theory is that it’‘s based solely off what version you announce yourself as and I’'m announcing myself as something pretty recent.