Smack-omemo rework #177 - multi-session from same client setup causes ejabberd server to start sending pubsub#event in an endless loop

The problem occurs with the following test environment and test procedure for multi-session.

  1. Initial setup
    a. Note-3: leopard@atalk.org/atalk (online)
    b. Note-2: swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2 (online)
    c. Note-8: swordfish@atalk.org/atalk (not-launch and offline)

  2. Start omemo messaging between 1a and 1b. Omemo messages exchanges between a and b work normally as expected.

  3. Start aTalk on 1c device. Upon authentication and sent. Note-8 receives the pubsub#event for swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2 from the server. In response, Note-8 publishes its deviceList to server.

  4. Upon receiving new pubsub from Note-8 by ejabberd server, it immediately sends an updated pubsub#event to Note-2.

  5. When Note-2 receives the new pubsub#event, it performs a similar reciprocal task likes Note-8

  6. This causes an endless loop to start between Note-8 and Note-2 and publishing and receiving pubsub#event to and from ejabberd server.

  7. The endless stops only when either one of swordfish clients is logoff.

Initially thought it was ejabberd problem so I reported to ejabberd. But after careful analyzing the stanza exchanges, I think it is caused by smack-omemo

==== Debug log for aTalk (Note-8) engages in an endless loop in pubsub exchanges =======

01-26 13:03:26.249 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <presence xml:lang='en' to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2' id='BO807-10450'><x xmlns='vcard-temp:x:update'><photo>2644872feed4850eb50d8562f17e2bc84932164c</photo></x><c xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/caps' hash='sha-1' node='http://android.atalk.org' ver='qlaf8fmwUojcVNOO07fSQc7Ko9Y='/><priority>30</priority><status/></presence>
01-26 13:03:35.156 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A79EF62'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='13537229'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:35.182 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:35.186 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:35.199 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:35.204 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:35.210 D/SMACK: SENT (0): <iq to='swordfish@atalk.org' id='uiZON-126' type='set'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:35.327 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <iq xml:lang='en' to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='result' id='uiZON-126'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A7D97D4'/></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:35.384 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <presence xml:lang='en' to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2' id='BO807-10474'><x xmlns='vcard-temp:x:update'><photo>2644872feed4850eb50d8562f17e2bc84932164c</photo></x><c xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/caps' hash='sha-1' node='http://android.atalk.org' ver='qlaf8fmwUojcVNOO07fSQc7Ko9Y='/><priority>30</priority><status/></presence>
01-26 13:03:35.388 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A7D97D4'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:35.402 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:35.409 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:35.423 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:35.428 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:35.771 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A845A8A'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='13537229'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:35.799 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:35.807 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:35.827 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:35.834 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:35.844 D/SMACK: SENT (0): <iq to='swordfish@atalk.org' id='uiZON-131' type='set'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:35.957 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <iq xml:lang='en' to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='result' id='uiZON-131'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A8805F2'/></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:35.964 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A8805F2'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:35.988 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:35.993 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.004 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.009 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.136 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A8AAD1E'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='13537229'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:36.163 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.171 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.192 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.199 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.206 D/SMACK: SENT (0): <iq to='swordfish@atalk.org' id='uiZON-135' type='set'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:36.335 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <iq xml:lang='en' to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='result' id='uiZON-135'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A8D93DC'/></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:36.343 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A8D93DC'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:36.368 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.376 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.397 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.404 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.547 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A917F4D'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='13537229'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:36.573 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.580 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.591 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.596 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.601 D/SMACK: SENT (0): <iq to='swordfish@atalk.org' id='uiZON-139' type='set'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:36.759 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <iq xml:lang='en' to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='result' id='uiZON-139'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A9446E2'/></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:36.767 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A9446E2'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:36.788 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.793 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.804 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.808 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.932 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A976BA7'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='13537229'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:36.959 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.964 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.975 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:36.980 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:36.986 D/SMACK: SENT (0): <iq to='swordfish@atalk.org' id='uiZON-143' type='set'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:37.103 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <iq xml:lang='en' to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='result' id='uiZON-143'><pubsub xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub'><publish node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A9A28B4'/></publish></pubsub></iq>
01-26 13:03:37.110 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A9A28B4'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='2144464921'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
01-26 13:03:37.135 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:37.143 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:37.154 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1327 Identities table updated for activeDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:2144464921
01-26 13:03:37.159 I/aTalk: [23359] org.atalk.persistance.DatabaseBackend.storeCachedDeviceList().1352 Identities table updated for inactiveDevice: swordfish@atalk.org:13537229
01-26 13:03:37.300 D/SMACK: RECV (0): <message to='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk' from='swordfish@atalk.org' type='headline'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl.devicelist'><item id='5ECE63A9CF266'><list xmlns='eu.siacs.conversations.axolotl'><device id='13537229'/></list></item></items></event><addresses xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/address'><address jid='swordfish@atalk.org/atalk2' type='replyto'/></addresses></message>
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I’ll take a look. I was certain I prevented such loops, but it appears something slipped my eyes. Thanks for reporting that :slight_smile:

Edit: Can you check, whether the issue still occurs when you set OmemoConfiguration.setDeleteStaleDevices(false);?

You are right. After I set
OmemoConfiguration.setDeleteStaleDevices(false);
The endless loop does not occur any more.

I have the following observation with the 3 devices in omemo messaging
a. omemo messsage send from leapord is received by both the sworfish client sessions
b. However omemo message send from either 1b or 1c received only by 1a. i.e. either of the swordfish siblings does not received each other message. But the encrypted omemo message contains all rids.

Is the above behavior normal?

I also observe some weird behavior during the test (seem to happen frequent)
Note-8 gets disconnected for unknown reason in 3 parties omemo chat

01-27 14:32:28.781 W/aTalk: [24150] org.jivesoftware.smack.AbstractXMPPConnection.callConnectionClosedOnErrorListener() Connection XMPPTCPConnection[swordfish@atalk.org/atalk] (0) closed with error
                            javax.net.ssl.SSLException: Write error: ssl=0xc55e4240: I/O error during system call, Broken pipe
                                at com.android.org.conscrypt.NativeCrypto.SSL_write(Native Method)
                                at com.android.org.conscrypt.OpenSSLSocketImpl$SSLOutputStream.write(OpenSSLSocketImpl.java:855)
                                at sun.nio.cs.StreamEncoder.writeBytes(StreamEncoder.java:221)
                                at sun.nio.cs.StreamEncoder.implFlushBuffer(StreamEncoder.java:291)
                                at sun.nio.cs.StreamEncoder.implFlush(StreamEncoder.java:295)
                                at sun.nio.cs.StreamEncoder.flush(StreamEncoder.java:141)
                                at java.io.OutputStreamWriter.flush(OutputStreamWriter.java:229)
                                at org.jivesoftware.smack.util.ObservableWriter.flush(ObservableWriter.java:51)
                                at org.jivesoftware.smack.tcp.XMPPTCPConnection$PacketWriter.writePackets(XMPPTCPConnection.java:1453)
                                at org.jivesoftware.smack.tcp.XMPPTCPConnection$PacketWriter.access$3300(XMPPTCPConnection.java:1260)
                                at org.jivesoftware.smack.tcp.XMPPTCPConnection$PacketWriter$1.run(XMPPTCPConnection.java:1308)
                                at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:762)

After xmpp re-connection, omemoManager publishs prekeys again. Is this necessary?
Then smack throws Response timeout for both the iq:roster/ and for prekeys even though both the replied stanzas are received well within the reply timeout (< 1 second>.

The omemo prekeys timeout causes problem to the Note8 in further omemo messaging exhanges. In view of this I will put back the previous patch to ignore the omemo reply timeout.

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I fixed the deviceList publication loop by taking the date of the last deviceList publication into consideration.
Please mark this thread as fixed and open a new thread for your other problem as I’m slowly losing my overview of smack-omemo problems :smiley:

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I reviewed your new implementation on the fix, found that you have introduced another variable DateOfLastDeviceIdPublication. However when perform isStale checking, it is based on both the
DateOfLastDeviceIdPublication & DateOfLastReceivedMessage; and the result is always determined by the latest update of the two.

For for clarifications.

  1. Is new DateOfLastDeviceIdPublication variable necessary. Can’t it be have a common variable for both;

  2. Will there be a case where DateOfLastDeviceIdPublication is set while DateOfLastReceivedMessage is null;
    Did I overlook some conditions? may be a bit messy to embed two statuses with single variable.

            boolean stale = isStale(userDevice, device, lastDeviceIdPublication, maxAgeHours);
            stale &= isStale(userDevice, device, lastMessageReceived, maxAgeHours);

Currently aTalk has a lastActivation field in identities table, following Conversations implementation, this field is updated to current time when the identity state is changed to active-undecided and active-trusted or to active. I also use the same field when setDateOfLastReceivedMessage() is call. But will proceed to add the two new fields in identities table for DateOfLastDeviceIdPublication and DateOfLastReceivedMessage in aTalk.

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Daniel Gultsch (the developer of Conversations) told me he is doing the same. Maybe we talked past each other, but in my eyes it makes sense to store both values. I’ll have your suggestion of using only one value back in my head though :slight_smile:

This will be set for example if you have a fresh installation. Incoming deviceListUpdates will set the dateOfLasDeviceIdPublication, while the client has not necessarily received a message from a contacts device, so dateOfLastReceivedMessage will stay null.

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solution verified working on aTalk. Thanks

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